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Treasurer claims ‘no alternative’ to taxing unrealised capital gains

Treasurer Jim Chalmers said after three rounds of consultation “nobody” could propose a better way to calculate how super balances over $3 million should be taxed.

by Keeli Cambourne
May 23, 2025
in News
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Speaking on the ABC podcast The Conversation, Chalmers said the alternatives that were proposed would impose costs on “everyone in the fund rather than just people over $3 million”.

“There are other options as part of that consultation as well. Treasury advises us that this is the best, simplest way to go about it,” he said.

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“This is all about making sure that it’s still concessional treatment. It’s the value at the start versus the value at the end allowing for withdrawals and contributions. And, again, this calculation is made elsewhere in the superannuation system, the way that a number of the funds have to report makes this calculation. So the calculation is not new. And if you make a loss you can carry the loss forward. There’s a whole bunch of appropriate arrangements made in the calculation.”

Peter Burgess, CEO of the SMSF Association, said “with all due respects to the Treasurer”, these are disturbing and somewhat puzzling statements.

“Large super funds will be required to make changes to their systems to enable, among other things, the annual valuation of defined benefit pensions and to report the required transactions to the ATO so they can calculate earnings for the purposes of this tax,” he told SMSF Adviser.

“Even if the latter only occurs on an exception basis these costs will be borne by all members of the fund and not just those with balances over $3 million.

“To think the best option is a new tax that requires the recording and tracking on unapplied carried forward tax losses, defined benefit pensions to be valued annually, the ATO to undertake complex calculation of earnings and unrealised capital gains to be included, once again illustrates the absences of any genuine consultation with industry.”

He added that on several occasions during the consultation phase, the SMSFA put forward alternative options which are much simpler and cost effective for the ATO and the industry to implement and would require straightforward amendments to the bill.

One of those options was based on the deeming rate and SMSFA developed calculators and spreadsheets to model this tax to demonstrate how the 90-day bank bill rate works in comparison to the government’s proposed approach to calculating earnings.

The models show that the accumulated tax after 30 years would require funds to pay considerably less.

Burgess said there will be “winners and losers” with deeming but by a process of elimination the association can’t see any other way of dealing with the issue of taxing unrealised capital gains.

“Our support for a deeming rate approach would only be on the basis that it’s pitched at the official cash rate. We don’t think a rate any more than that would work,” he said

He added from the association’s initial calculations that if the deeming rate is at the 90-day bank bill rate, most clients will pay less tax under this approach compared to the Treasury’s proposed approach.

“And deeming would have the other added benefit of being much simpler to apply so we wouldn’t have to worry about carrying forward negative losses,” he said.

“It would be more predictable in terms of the outcomes which we think is a big problem with the government’s proposed approach because they are linking the tax to performance in investment markets and the liability could be very different from one year to the next.”

David Busoli, principal of SMSF Alliance, also proposed an alternative method of calculation which he believes would be simpler and fairer.

“Under the current proposal the ATO gathers the member’s data from each fund, amalgamates it and applies this formula – Earnings = Adjusted TSB at end of financial year – TSB at start of financial year,” he said.
“What I propose is that this be the default position where the member is not in a fund capable of providing actual income data at the member level. Where they can, then the earnings for such a member is actual income which is defined as income, including realised capital gains less the effects of concessional contributions and pension exempt income.”

Busoli said this could cater for members in both fund types using the formula:
Earnings = Adjusted TSB at end of financial year for members in funds that don’t report actual income – TSB at start of financial year for members in funds that don’t report actual income + Actual Income for members in funds that can report actual income.

“A flat tax rate of 15 per cent is applied to the proportion of earnings attributable to the member’s balance over $3 million in the same way as the present proposal,” he said.


“This change caters for several competing interests. Firstly, it removes the highly unpopular tax on unrealised gains for those funds that can report actual income. And for those funds that cannot report on that basis, they have until 30 June 2026 to get their reporting in order, if they choose to do so.”

He continued that undoubtedly there will be one-off costs associated with system changes.

“Given the demographics of some APRA funds, they may choose not to implement them. The cost of implementation to the SMSF sector would be modest given that the reporting required is already largely catered for,” Busoli said.

Additionally, he said the government has already booked the revenue raised so they will not wish to delay the introduction of the tax and this methodology would still allow the tax to commence from 1 July 2025.

“The government is concerned that such a system may be manipulated by SMSF trustees who choose to segregate their assets, but asset segregation for tax purposes is already prohibited,” he said.

“As well, the government is concerned at the amount of additional data that dealing with taxable income would entail but this could be filtered to exclude all individuals with a zero taxable proportion, thus removing most member data from consideration. A second filter would be applied to those members unable to provide individual data.”


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Comments 19

  1. Mark says:
    6 months ago

    I don’t know what degree he graduated in to become Doctor Chalmers, but it would appear that it may have been an email degree.
    If it is a genuine degree, then it shows he has learnt nothing.

    Reply
  2. Patrick says:
    6 months ago

    Is the treasurer completely oblivious to the well-established “progressive” taxation rates outside super. Super funds do have to calculate their assessable income and realised capital gains and apportion these among account holders, simply to produce individual statements which they already do. So, what on earth is wrong with having progressive tax rates for super funds? Perhaps 15% up to $180,000 taxable income, 20% up to say $250,000 (or $300,000) and 30% on any higher balance. So simple, even one as (apparently) dumb as Jim can comprehend this.

    Reply
  3. Aneas says:
    6 months ago

    So unfortunate really that there isn’t an alternative treasurer either.
    Would ideally like one that listens, sticks to promises, brave enough to tackle bigger opponents rather than slivers and has to ability to learn from history. 
     But it is what it is, and those of the target cohort  who are not stuck like fish in a barrel just have to deal with one more problem to the best of their ability.
    And not forget.

    Reply
  4. David says:
    6 months ago

    The Treasurer refers to the considerable consultation that was performed. That is gob-smackingly dishonest. The terms of reference laid down in the consultation process dictated that we could comment on anything – except the level of the cap, its lack of indexation and the method of calculating the tax. The process was nothing more than a box ticking exercise.

    Reply
    • John says:
      6 months ago

      Agreed David.  On 7 June 2023 Stephen Jones replied to issues I have consistently raised in relation to the treatment of Defined Benefit pension saying that he did not wish to engage in any further consultation as we had been consulted via the public consultation process.

      It is regrettable that the government took this approach as at that time there was absolutely zero detail available as to how DB schemes would be affected.  For the Treasurer to now say consumers had been consulted is totally ingenuous.  How can you consult on what was effectively a bland sheet of paper!

      Reply
  5. Tania says:
    6 months ago

    Chalmers is not a moron, he is a calculating, very clever con man.  Their intention all along was to pretend to listen to the huge pushback they knew would come, but they were never ever going to change a thing. His idiot PR team probably came up with that ridiculous explanation for the radio show thinking we would buy it.  How stupid does he think we are? What a narcissist. We already lodge returns for SMSFs showing the taxable earnings allocated to each member… why not have a marginal tax rate per member instead eg first $150k tax-free (for pensions), then 15% up to $300k and 30% above $300k or whatever is equitable.  Much simpler.

    Reply
  6. Greg says:
    6 months ago

    To say this comment shows the Treasurer is an absolute moron and is incapable of reading the various viable alternatives that have been proposed in many public forums. It shows his lack of economic substance and his incapacity in holding the position of Treasurer!

    Reply
  7. Greg says:
    6 months ago

    Duplicity combined with economic ignorance is not a good look.

    Reply
  8. David says:
    6 months ago

    More concerning than the tax on unrealised gains is the fact that based on his own statements, we seen to have a Treasurer running the finances of the nation who is either a idiot or a liar.  

    Reply
  9. Nathan says:
    6 months ago

    I would like to know who he consulted.  No one in the accounting or super fund industries I imagine

    Reply
  10. Chris says:
    6 months ago

    No Alternative… maybe the system in place using realised gains and income and apply the additional 15% to that. No no double taxation combined with a convoluted calculation is the only suitable option. Jim definitely has a colored abacus to work through these calculations.

    Reply
  11. David says:
    6 months ago

    Liar liar pants on fire.  Jim your nose is longer than Pinocchio’s.

    Reply
  12. Derek says:
    6 months ago

    Irresponsible people sending the country broke, desperately trying to pull more money out of the public to fix the mess they create! No alternative than to put people who have in good faith done what they can, now under duress. AND they’ll enjoy their exemptions – they our waving their incomitance and self interest in your face!!!

    Reply
  13. john says:
    6 months ago

    lucky he is in canberra as anywhere he would be charged with drug offences he has lost his marbles

    Reply
  14. Ken says:
    6 months ago

    The lack of indexation along with taxing unrealised gains are the real problems. How can you pay a tax with profit you haven’t realised? 

    For the people that have put money in super and made investment choices in good faith this represents outright theft and nothing else. The immediate impact will force people to liquidate (in some cases highly illiquid) assets to service an imaginary number made up by the ATO. the longer term impacts will mean people will think very carefully about investments in SMSF’s that would be captured by this. Maybe that has been the plan all along.

    Reply
  15. Ben says:
    6 months ago

    I think everyone wants to know what Chalmers is smoking as he is clearly on another planet to the rest of us!

    Reply
  16. VW says:
    6 months ago

    Its simple – but Chalmers actually refuses to acknowledge it.

    Chalmers has refused to be open-minded as otherwise, he has to go into bat against the industry super funds.  He does not want to do that.  So, he’ll just hit us all over the head again and again – we are only a “sliver” of people as he calls us, after all.

    Its easier to go to bat against the “sliver” than the smaller group of far more powerful and combative industry fund leaders and union leaders.

    Reply
  17. Matt B says:
    6 months ago

    May questions to Chalmers are:
    1.Why Levy such a tax on super funds as the best way to raise taxes? Surely even raising the GST is a fairer user pay revenue tax… 
    2. A realistic figure of $5 million or greater is way fairer considering there’s no indexation 
    3.Ensure all State & Federal politicians super funds are equally taxed which is for either party a fair & equatible vote winner…
    4. Who arrived at this $3 Million figure..? Surely after 3 rounds on consultation no one asked this question..? 

    Reply
  18. Lyn says:
    6 months ago

    No-one could find a WORSE way Jim!

    Reply

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