Speaking to SMSF Adviser, SMSF Association director of technical and professional standards Graeme Colley said individuals looking to set up an SMSF have been under the impression that they are required to set up a bank account before the fund can be registered by the ATO.
“This has caused a bit of a chicken and egg scenario in that some banks will not allow you to set up a bank account [for your SMSF] unless you’ve got the ABN for your super fund,” said Mr Colley.
An SMSF trustee, he said, will not receive their ABN until the fund is registered with the ATO.
Mr Colley estimates that around six or seven thousand funds are likely to have been impacted by the issue.
An ATO spokesperson explained to SMSF Adviser, however, that under the new requirements, an SMSF is not actually required to set up a bank account before registering, as previously understood, and is actually only required to have an asset.
“For a trust to exist it must have ‘consideration’ – in other words, an asset. The asset does not have to be cash,” said the ATO.
The ATO also told SMSF Adviser that it will “revamp” its website material to ensure the sequence of events is clearer to SMSF practitioners and potential trustees.
The sequence of steps currently listed on the ATO website for setting up an SMSF, however, positions setting up a bank account ahead of registering with the ATO.
A webinar presented by the ATO recently also named setting up a bank account as one of the steps required for registering an SMSF.
“It’s important to note that before an SMSF can be registered for an ABN, the fund must actually be established,” the ATO webinar said.
“A separate bank account must be set up in the name of the SMSF, it must be clear that the SMSF fund is the owner of the fund’s assets – this means all assets must be documented as held by trustees on behalf of the SMSF.”
The ATO needs to sort out that order and make it clear to people who are setting up self-managed funds, said Mr Colley.
While people setting up SMSFs could easily use publicly-listed shares as the asset or consideration for establishing the trust, he said, most trustees want to use cash as the settlement amount.
Those looking to set up an SMSF should also be careful about using some types of assets as consideration, such as private shares, as they may attract stamp duty, Mr Colley said.
I see two very very easy solutions.
1. Banks can be reasonable (I might die laughing) and allow new SMSF’s to provide the ABN once received. They already ask for a copy of the trust deed. What more do they really need?
2. The ATO could grow some common sense (although we could be waiting a long time!) and issue an ABN on the expectation of holding an asset in the near future. I mean, it’s not like they can’t cancel it if expected assets are not forthcoming.
This has to be one of the most stupid rules ever invented for no reason. This is nothing but unnecessary red tape.
bewdiful, I can have an SMSF for you in a coupla days, you want bananas or apples?
‘the asset does not have to be cash’…that’s wonderful!!
What may they suggest it be? fruit?
It’s not like you can in specie transfer existing assets from most public offer super funds is it?
Thank you Uncle Graeme, you’ve done it again!